@alan f Oh puleeeeze Alan.  Drama queen, much?  "Defend Robert at all costs!"  Pfffft.Maybe some of us appreciate and value Shapings and the service and products that Robert and his ...

Its weird how much this became a "Defend Robert at all costs!" thread as opposed to trying new pantyhose and collecting our thoughts on it. Not very open minded. 

@Carrie Stuart I totally understand. I have to admit Neon 40s won't work for most outfits either. I guess girls wear hosiery mainly for the "make up" effect on their legs?

@Tom Woo You 'can' love both, I guess.  But I don't.  No 40 denier for me, and keep the shine to a max of satin finish.  Not every girl wants ALL eyes on her legs (or other body part...

@Carrie Stuart Hi Carrie, I can see your beautiful legs are in perfect condition from the pictures you posted, I love to see your natural skin tone and texture showing through your hosiery too! If ...

@Tom Woo Nope.  Never will.  I HATE opaques, and particularly in nude shades.  And if they're shiny (which draws even more attention to it) I hate the look even more.In my personal p...

Thank you sweetie!

@Carrie Stuart That's true. I also found well designed non-seamless pantyhose are super comfortable to wear too, given the size is right. I feel seamless is the next stage of pantyhose and the pric...

@Carrie Stuart YMMV but I like how Neon 40s look, also it can hide any blemishes on the skin, thinking it more like opaque instead of sheer pantyhose 😉. There are tons of shades to choose from to m...

@Tom Woo It's  all dependent upon where the vertical seam line starts, and where it hits ones personal anatomy.  Sometimes the gusset area is generous and seams don't become an uncomforta...

@Tom Woo Exactly my point.  Neon 40s are far from sheer.  Thick and with so much gloss, there's too much light kicking back into your eyes that you can't possibly see through them to any ...

@Carrie Stuart Agreed! The innovations from hosiery companies like CdR (facilitated by @Robert Safko of course) are mind-blowing while rest of the industry is pretty much stationary...

@Carrie Stuart I have the same love for sheer pantyhose too so no LImerance for me 😄 The sheer ones from Wolford are usually matte finish. My favorite Wolford pantyhose is Neon 40 which is glossy.

@Carrie Stuart Thanks. I checked out those two brands. Like you said they are mainly making stockings, and you are right that I'm more into pantyhose 😀. For "sensory appeal", I actually prefer regu...

@Tom Woo It actually kind of IS Rocket Science.  Robert has a few videos up on Shapings YouTube site on the subject of manufacturing pantyhose.  I think it was shot in the CdR factory, if...

Gorgeous heels and stockings . the silky nylon arch is very sexy

@Tom Woo Greater opacity in appearance would further make Limerance less attractive to me.  I rarely wear anything heavier than 20 denier but my typical is 15 for day to day and even some even...

@Tom Woo Cervin and Gio I go to for stockings, only.  If your primary interest is pantyhose, I think there are other brands that would serve you with more options.  I'm not that concerned...

@alan f The $20 was an arbitrary price point for the purposes of this discussion.  I think that when I looked into Limerance products, they ranged from about $18-$24 for the styles that I migh...

@alan f The price is reasonable, like a pair of CdR Eternos. But how come it looks thicker than CdR Sevilla Libero 15 while it is only 8D? IMO it's not as good as Libero 15.  "Seamless crotchl...